Ian Dibb, founder and CEO of Once Iâve Gone, tragically lost his mum and his sister in quick succession. The fact that he hadnât had conversations about death - about what would happen after they died - with either of them made things significantly harder.Â
âShe wouldnât talk to us about death or dying or any of that sort of stuff, which made the process of dealing with her death incredibly painful. An absolute nightmare,â he says of his mum.Â
âThatâs why we started Once Iâve Goneâ, he continues, âbecause, as individuals, the one thing that you are guaranteed from the moment youâre born, is that you will die. Itâs a given. You canât avoid it â no matter how well off you are. And avoiding it only makes life more difficult for those you love.âÂ
Once Iâve Gone is a tool that helps people get their personal, legal and financial affairs in order while theyâre still alive â to minimise stress for those they leave behind. It ensures thereâs no frantic rummaging trying to find the deceasedâs most recent will or insurance documents, and that family and friends know exactly what kind of send-off they would have wanted.Â
âYouâre taking away those really difficult decisions from family members at a time when they shouldnât be making them â because theyâre in no fit state.âÂ
I had a chat with Ian about Once Iâve Gone, the business of death, and whether this kind of innovation really can help people deal with the big questions.
Do you think that the way the âdeath industryâ works at the moment is old-fashioned?Â
So, nowadays you have #DeathTech, which I think is great because of the tech element, but itâs also a bit impersonal. And I donât like Once Iâve Gone to be labelled Death Tech, because we are all about making a difference â weâre an organisation where all of the team have lost people, weâre not just a cybersecurity firm. We use technology to make a difference.Â
But it is nice to see that people are now starting to talk about end of life more, and whether thatâs using an online digital platform or whether thatâs become financial advisors, estate planners, solicitors understanding that people want to leave a digital legacy, itâs great to see people adapting and changing. Itâs not stuffy; itâs no longer seen as taboo, which it was for many years. I think the more organisations that step into this sector the better.Â
We try to bring all these organisations together into one place â to get people to start planning for end of life. But also, Once Iâve Gone should be a whole of life platform. So if you signed up today â youâve got a digital backup protected against flood, fire and theft, which is always available to you.Â
So does it not matter how old you are? Is this for everyone?Â
Yes, absolutely. We live in a paperless society, and if somethingâs on your email address, itâs out of access for those you love. So this should be something we all use. We want everything to be stored in Once Iâve Gone to make life easier for you on a day to day basis, but at the same time, should anything happen to you, instead of your family members trying to locate everything, itâs all in Once Iâve Gone.Â
Iâve been looking into funeral poverty, where 1 in 6 people in the UK wouldnât be able to afford the cost of a funeral. Do you think your platform could help out with that?Â
One of the key things with dying is that the family members arenât aware of what the individual would have wanted, so they end up splurging thousands of pounds on funerals that they might not have wanted. So, for my dad, whoâs still with us, Iâve told him Iâm just chucking him in the back of a car and taking him to the recycling centre! And thatâs what he would want.Â
Yes, funeral poverty is a big issue â but at the same time a funeral doesnât have to cost a lot of money. It could be that you have a simple service at home for that individual, and then you have a small cremation where the family gets to say goodbye.
In most cases, Mum and Dad would have wanted to be remembered by those they love, to be given a send-off that celebrates their life, and not to cost the family a small fortune. And by using the platform, they can decide what they want â this song, this hymn, this reading, this location.Â
I know that, should something happen to me, my funeralâs going to be an absolute blast â because my lifeâs been incredible, and I want my send-off to be incredible.Â
Has Once Iâve Gone changed the way you talk about death with your family, and the way you think about your own death?Â
Massively. Iâm not afraid of death â donât get me wrong. As a kid I always worried about Mum not being there, but as an adult Iâve never had a fear of death because I enjoy life so much. I think that if you understand that we are all mortal, you enjoy life far more than those individuals that choose to ignore it.Â
On Sunday, we took my daughter to the beach in Newquay. We ran up and down the sand dunes, and I shot a couple of videos, and Iâve already uploaded them into Once Iâve Gone, so that those moments Iâve captured will be kept forever and given to my daughter at the time she needs it the most. So I donât fear my own death; I just want to make sure that if something does happen to me, Iâve made life easier for those I love â and for my daughter to understand how loved she is.Â
Have you come up against some people who just donât want to talk about it? What are the challenges youâve faced innovating in an industry that is still fairly taboo?Â
With COVID, itâs become clear that - because we hear about death statistics, not about how many people have been saved every day - we live in a society where fear is suggested to us on a daily basis.Â
But the organisations we work with in the end of life sector automatically know the importance of planning for a good death. So yes, there are people out there that simply donât want to talk about death, but I think theyâre in the minority these days. Itâs something we all need to address.Â
What next for Once Iâve Gone?Â
One of the key things is letting people know weâre out there! In May, we launched our partnership platform, where organisations can use Once Iâve Gone with their own clients. Weâre always looking to work with exciting firms who understand the need for a digital legacy, but donât have the technology to do it themselves. Weâre looking to form lifelong strategic relationships with wealth managers, estate planners, financial advisors â and also with charities in the end of life sector.Â
Our platform is massively complementary to the likes of Farewill and other organisations. It works well with a solicitor who wants to help their client. Weâre very much a non-competitive platform, looking to work with organisations who really value their clients; and for us, seeing how technology is changing has been an incredible journey. You can see that people are using Once I've Gone more and more, because itâs simple.Â